Thanks. I remember this unbelievable declaration. I would have added it to my post,.. but I wanted to show what occurred before Goverment Officials insanely removed Ivermectin from its recommendations. It is remarkable though, things continued to improve even after the government's inconceivable action.
Please Jeff... While I appreciate your input, let's not flood the thread unnecessarily. You don't need 3 posts to make one point. Just edit the comment I'm replying to. And besides, all you did was repost broken links. (404)
It's always a good idea to see if the links work by clicking on them after posting. And then edit accordingly. Thanks.
Not exactly. Ivermectin was discovered by Ōmura in 1973, for which he was awarded the Nobel Prize in 2015. It wasn't approved for human use until 1987. https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711
Maybe you're thinking of something else?
I learned of Fenbendazole not too long ago. Another anti-parasitic with remarkable potential. The FDA will never approve this drug for human use, that's how effective they're afraid it might be. If my cancer ever returns, I'll be sure to get my hands on some. It's readily available if needed. I already take a lot of anti-cancer nutraceuticals prophylactically. i.e... IVM, LDN, Turkey Tail extract, etc... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/cancer-and-boosters
Had they originally implemented, full scale state-wide use when they first began using it (Aug 2020), I doubt the Delta wave would have been so devastating. They shut down everything, during that wave, including the mail. A package of mine was delayed for months.
IIRC, when Daszak from EcoHealth Alliance, Faucele’s cutout for conducting the research, was trying to get DARPA to kick in money for the Wuhan lab back before the pandemic, he tried to assuage their concerns about their illegal research getting loose by saying that IVM was an effective treatment. So Faucele knew too. How many died needlessly due to his protocols that forbade IVM? Strangely, Faucele sent Daszak to Wuhan to get to the bottom of whether the origin was the lab or the wet market. Daszak lied and said it was the wet market. They both knew. I have zero trust in doctors unless they fought the narrative in real time. Far too many of them were either evil and greedy, were ignorant patsies or were just plain cowards.
Excellent real life story this. My compliments to ohbaby. There is no doubt about the prophylactic potential of IVM in Covid. The highly populous state of UP ( and very backward in social indices) had not resorted to the large scale prophylactic use of IVM during the Delta burst in April/May 2021, the cases and hence deaths would have reached sky high. I am from India and has followed this Covid story everywhere closely. It is also correct not many states followed the Ivermectin protocol seriously. However, in the second half of 2021, cases, hospitalisations and deaths began dropping dramatically. Yes, by mid 2021 only about 15%of the 1.3 billion population had been double vaccinated ( Astra Zeneca one, made in the country) and by end 2021 this rose to about 80% of the population. Honestly, I don’t ascribe the dramatic fall in numbers in the second half of 2021 to this. Doctors, hundreds of thousands of them, who were aware of the value of early treatment protocols with standard URT medications ( Azithromycin, Montelukast, Levocetrizine and the like) massively took to this protocol in the mid months of 2021 at the height of the delta wave. I will explain later how this cut down the spread drastically. This protocol became a standard outpatient treatment, individual viral load build up came down, and with it the chance of the severe second phase ( auto immune) occurring around the 8th day disappeared. Ivermectin was used in this protocol by many doctors but not massively. It did provide its therapeutic value, but it was not a compulsory in the multi drug repurposed protocol very widely accepted. So the role of this protocol should not be gainsaid.
The vaccination did not prevent a country wide Omicron burst in early 2022, but this repurposed protocol did. In Jan 2022, I went for this type of protocol on my own ( I am not a doctor, but an old PhD organic chemist) with telling results. If interested I can put up a list of dozen odd drugs that I collected from about 15 prescriptions. The wave disappeared as quickly as it came. Since mid 2022, we had literally stopped talking about Covid. Around that time vaccinations also came to a halt, with only about 15% taking a third shot. People and in turn the govt also gave up on repeat vaccinations.
Ivermectin was an off label antiviral, but most of the other drugs in the protocol too were off label anti viral, by virtue of their some shared chemical structure features. They were all basically belonging to a group/classification called “Cationic Amphiphilic Drugs” (CADs), long known to be anti viral despite their main indications. In Omicron wave, this early treatment became almost institutional. When the first infected in the family is treated early ( on the basis of symptoms), with this multi drug prescriptions, he/she recovers quickly without reaching a large viral load build up. The viral load he carries at the max is not enough to infect others in the family. The family is spared. And the bonus. They get passive exposure to the virus giving them the preferred natural immunity. Multiply this over thousands of households in a community - there is no spread and every one has acquired the herd immunity. The virus retires. Precisely what happened here between mid 2021 and mid 2022. We never used the Paxlovids and Molnupiravirs. Our outpatient treatment, including two consultations, did not cost more than 30 dollars. The poor had this for free in the community health centres and hospitals.
I'm surprised you haven't seen this post before, since you are from India. It's not like I have written that many posts, that it might get lost in the pile. You were all over the Ivermectin post just prior to this one. Professor you continually surprise me.
Herd immunity will soon be gone with the Dodo bird. Once we Baby Boomers die out there will be no such thing as herd immunity. All that will be left is vaccine induced immunity. And that type of protection never lasts. Hence why measles is a thing again.
One other thing, there is no immunity with coronaviruses. They mutate too frequently. Which is why I caught COVID 3 times, and why IVM will always be helpful.
Thanks. Firstly I am not a professor. My entire career was industrial R&D, including oils and fats, which is one of my very favourite subject. I have not worked in drugs either. In retirement, about 20 years ago, I took to reading medicinal organic chemistry as a personal interest, especially organic structures of drug molecules. It became very strong during the Covid times. I am still at it. Since I have no opportunities or contacts or resources to work on this subject, I keep writing to prod researchers.
Actually doctors here, by training or whatever, have much better clinical approaches to their patients. They certainly knew about the value of classical respiratory drugs and early treatments. But like everywhere else, in 2020 and early 2021, they too were overwhelmed by the government push on mandates and vaccines. One trigger to the change in approach in them could have been the presence of Dr. Shankara Chetty as a consultant to the small state of Manipur here where he advised early medications using trained nurses ( lack of doctors in the state) and with these repurposed drugs helping them avoid the delta ravage totally while the rest of the country was burning. He had published his successful repurposed protocols in early 2021 and the awareness spread.
I wanted to mention how the West, particularly the USA, by shunning early treatments, classical medicines including Ivermectin repurposed to this virus, blinded by exclusive vaccine priority, that too with a half baked product, by the so called dedicated anti virals like half baked Paxlovid etc continued to reel, even through 2023. Repeat vaccinations doing most of the damage. Once people wisely began shunning these repeat m-RNA vaccines in 2024, things have been slowly returning to normalcy. But they have to continue to address long Covid and long vax syndromes.
No doubt Ivermectin is a golden drug. I don’t know if I have done it in your columns ( comments), but elsewhere, I have repeatedly urged researchers ( including FLCCC) to come together on an international programme “Ivermectin for the World”, to thoroughly unravel it’s multi potential and bring it to mainstream medicine. The most important being its value in cancer treatment which is now out of bounds for half the world population. Unfortunately, I haven’t got even a courtesy of a response. I don’t know how to push this effort on a world stage.
Didn't you once say you have a PhD? So while it might not be entirely accurate to call everyone with a PhD a professor, you are a doctor of something.
And I have written of the great achievements of Dr. Shankara Chetty in a few of my posts. And how he was prosecuted for his success in treating 1,000's of COVID patients, without a single one needing to be hospitalized.... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/big-pharmas-relentless-assault-now
The book on Ivermectin is fine. Every doctor must read it and keep it for consulting. It is a compilation and commentary on the work so far by myriad researchers and doctors, but largely unconnected work. My interest is about unravelling the still hidden potential of the molecule, as an international connected effort, so that there is no duplicating work and more aspects are covered. The drug may have multiple metabolistic mechanisms depending on the illness being prescribed for. The more thoroughly they are researched, the more options for Ivermectin will emerge. The effort must include study of other repurposed drugs that can compliment the efficacy of Ivermectin. To some extent, we are seeing it for cancer. More expansive work is needed for other life crippling diseases like Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, many Auto immune conditions etc. That is why I am rooting for world scale coordinated work.
I am in touch with Dr. Shankara Chetty as he had shown interest in my organic chemistry for repurposed drugs, especially as anti virals. If I have to name one single doctor in the whole world for his great work on Covid treatments, it must be him.
You're a dreamer, aren't you? There has never been a world-wide coordinated effort made for any item, substance, or product, other than these mRNA vaccines. To think this might be a possibility, for such a vilified and misaligned substance is a pipe dream.
It is a dream alright, but not unrealistic. Some one like FLCCC and Dr. Hope can make a beginning. They have international following. It can be like this. Start with contacting all those researchers who have been interested in this work with IVM so far, perhaps some 20-30 of them. Get them on one platform. Science funding suddenly looks fraught now, but I hope some crowd sourced funding is possible, from doctors who used Ivermectin to the patients who benefited from their use. If the determination is there, it should be possible to get going.
Agree. I kept saying then why is not all of India dead if so viral …. Crickets …. Then I stared throwing out other country names ….. so what exactly are they doing …..
Proof of so many things. When researching different places outside of USA, why numbers were low etc I discovered a couple of regions and what they were doing …. While Israel was literally under armed military lockdown, households limited to 1 person out and limited trips to pharmacies, grocery stories etc …. Could not make this up …. Made comment the irony or of all places this was happening ….. and the evil and hate directed towards me was palpable ….. duly noted ….
Macron banned OTC sales on HCQ in mid January 2020. Remember reading about and thought that’ll be a pain for those taking for their rheumatoid arthritis. Yes … mid January 2020….. remember thinking it was odd ….. did I save the article? Nope.
May 2020 but you already couldn’t get in France then a factory burned down at some point
Great article. We know the depopulation plan has worked well no matter how it’s explained. Just logical. We had remedies, mostly not used to sell jabs to murder. Simple facts.
Thanks. It's a little bit more devious than that. Cause if it were as simple as that, they would have released a more dangerous pathogen. You don't want to kill your customers. Better to make them chronically ill, to keep demand high and the profits rolling.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/no-fresh-case-in-71-uttar-pradesh-districts-in-24-hours-42-declared-covid-free/articleshow/87148678.cms
Thanks. I remember this unbelievable declaration. I would have added it to my post,.. but I wanted to show what occurred before Goverment Officials insanely removed Ivermectin from its recommendations. It is remarkable though, things continued to improve even after the government's inconceivable action.
Except for the State of Kerala which doubled down the other way.
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout---part-v-the-secret-revealed/article_9a37d9a8-1fb2-11ec-a94b-47343582647b.html
Thanks again. Dr. Justus R Hope did great work in keeping us informed during the pandemic. As told in his series of articles entitled,.. 'India's Ivermectin Blackout'. I used him as a source in my post. I recommend his Substack at my home page... https://justusrhope.substack.com/?utm_source=homepage_recommendations&utm_campaign=1980013
The link in your previous comment was broken, so I removed it.
Which one, about Kerala?
Please Jeff... While I appreciate your input, let's not flood the thread unnecessarily. You don't need 3 posts to make one point. Just edit the comment I'm replying to. And besides, all you did was repost broken links. (404)
It's always a good idea to see if the links work by clicking on them after posting. And then edit accordingly. Thanks.
Your other two links standing, work just fine.
It’s a fantastic drug. Learned about it 10 yrs or so when I found a paper on it, called Japenese wonder drug. Check it out. Fenben just as good.
And the Japanese pp have been taking it since ww2.
Not exactly. Ivermectin was discovered by Ōmura in 1973, for which he was awarded the Nobel Prize in 2015. It wasn't approved for human use until 1987. https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711
Maybe you're thinking of something else?
I learned of Fenbendazole not too long ago. Another anti-parasitic with remarkable potential. The FDA will never approve this drug for human use, that's how effective they're afraid it might be. If my cancer ever returns, I'll be sure to get my hands on some. It's readily available if needed. I already take a lot of anti-cancer nutraceuticals prophylactically. i.e... IVM, LDN, Turkey Tail extract, etc... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/cancer-and-boosters
The treatment protocol using IVM and HCQ was printed in the local newspaper!
Had they originally implemented, full scale state-wide use when they first began using it (Aug 2020), I doubt the Delta wave would have been so devastating. They shut down everything, during that wave, including the mail. A package of mine was delayed for months.
IIRC, when Daszak from EcoHealth Alliance, Faucele’s cutout for conducting the research, was trying to get DARPA to kick in money for the Wuhan lab back before the pandemic, he tried to assuage their concerns about their illegal research getting loose by saying that IVM was an effective treatment. So Faucele knew too. How many died needlessly due to his protocols that forbade IVM? Strangely, Faucele sent Daszak to Wuhan to get to the bottom of whether the origin was the lab or the wet market. Daszak lied and said it was the wet market. They both knew. I have zero trust in doctors unless they fought the narrative in real time. Far too many of them were either evil and greedy, were ignorant patsies or were just plain cowards.
You speak in the past tense as if things have changed. LOL! This nightmare continues.
Health officials, sworn to protect us, have become so thoroughly corrupted, they now pose a huge threat to our welfare.
How else can you explain these vaccines not being withdrawn?
War on Freedom has Begun with Draconian Measures....
https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/war-on-freedom-has-begun-with-draconian
Agreed. I simply don’t trust them at all anymore. My health is my responsibility now. Not theirs.
Excellent real life story this. My compliments to ohbaby. There is no doubt about the prophylactic potential of IVM in Covid. The highly populous state of UP ( and very backward in social indices) had not resorted to the large scale prophylactic use of IVM during the Delta burst in April/May 2021, the cases and hence deaths would have reached sky high. I am from India and has followed this Covid story everywhere closely. It is also correct not many states followed the Ivermectin protocol seriously. However, in the second half of 2021, cases, hospitalisations and deaths began dropping dramatically. Yes, by mid 2021 only about 15%of the 1.3 billion population had been double vaccinated ( Astra Zeneca one, made in the country) and by end 2021 this rose to about 80% of the population. Honestly, I don’t ascribe the dramatic fall in numbers in the second half of 2021 to this. Doctors, hundreds of thousands of them, who were aware of the value of early treatment protocols with standard URT medications ( Azithromycin, Montelukast, Levocetrizine and the like) massively took to this protocol in the mid months of 2021 at the height of the delta wave. I will explain later how this cut down the spread drastically. This protocol became a standard outpatient treatment, individual viral load build up came down, and with it the chance of the severe second phase ( auto immune) occurring around the 8th day disappeared. Ivermectin was used in this protocol by many doctors but not massively. It did provide its therapeutic value, but it was not a compulsory in the multi drug repurposed protocol very widely accepted. So the role of this protocol should not be gainsaid.
The vaccination did not prevent a country wide Omicron burst in early 2022, but this repurposed protocol did. In Jan 2022, I went for this type of protocol on my own ( I am not a doctor, but an old PhD organic chemist) with telling results. If interested I can put up a list of dozen odd drugs that I collected from about 15 prescriptions. The wave disappeared as quickly as it came. Since mid 2022, we had literally stopped talking about Covid. Around that time vaccinations also came to a halt, with only about 15% taking a third shot. People and in turn the govt also gave up on repeat vaccinations.
Ivermectin was an off label antiviral, but most of the other drugs in the protocol too were off label anti viral, by virtue of their some shared chemical structure features. They were all basically belonging to a group/classification called “Cationic Amphiphilic Drugs” (CADs), long known to be anti viral despite their main indications. In Omicron wave, this early treatment became almost institutional. When the first infected in the family is treated early ( on the basis of symptoms), with this multi drug prescriptions, he/she recovers quickly without reaching a large viral load build up. The viral load he carries at the max is not enough to infect others in the family. The family is spared. And the bonus. They get passive exposure to the virus giving them the preferred natural immunity. Multiply this over thousands of households in a community - there is no spread and every one has acquired the herd immunity. The virus retires. Precisely what happened here between mid 2021 and mid 2022. We never used the Paxlovids and Molnupiravirs. Our outpatient treatment, including two consultations, did not cost more than 30 dollars. The poor had this for free in the community health centres and hospitals.
Thanks for the kind words...
I'm surprised you haven't seen this post before, since you are from India. It's not like I have written that many posts, that it might get lost in the pile. You were all over the Ivermectin post just prior to this one. Professor you continually surprise me.
Herd immunity will soon be gone with the Dodo bird. Once we Baby Boomers die out there will be no such thing as herd immunity. All that will be left is vaccine induced immunity. And that type of protection never lasts. Hence why measles is a thing again.
One other thing, there is no immunity with coronaviruses. They mutate too frequently. Which is why I caught COVID 3 times, and why IVM will always be helpful.
Thanks. Firstly I am not a professor. My entire career was industrial R&D, including oils and fats, which is one of my very favourite subject. I have not worked in drugs either. In retirement, about 20 years ago, I took to reading medicinal organic chemistry as a personal interest, especially organic structures of drug molecules. It became very strong during the Covid times. I am still at it. Since I have no opportunities or contacts or resources to work on this subject, I keep writing to prod researchers.
Actually doctors here, by training or whatever, have much better clinical approaches to their patients. They certainly knew about the value of classical respiratory drugs and early treatments. But like everywhere else, in 2020 and early 2021, they too were overwhelmed by the government push on mandates and vaccines. One trigger to the change in approach in them could have been the presence of Dr. Shankara Chetty as a consultant to the small state of Manipur here where he advised early medications using trained nurses ( lack of doctors in the state) and with these repurposed drugs helping them avoid the delta ravage totally while the rest of the country was burning. He had published his successful repurposed protocols in early 2021 and the awareness spread.
I wanted to mention how the West, particularly the USA, by shunning early treatments, classical medicines including Ivermectin repurposed to this virus, blinded by exclusive vaccine priority, that too with a half baked product, by the so called dedicated anti virals like half baked Paxlovid etc continued to reel, even through 2023. Repeat vaccinations doing most of the damage. Once people wisely began shunning these repeat m-RNA vaccines in 2024, things have been slowly returning to normalcy. But they have to continue to address long Covid and long vax syndromes.
No doubt Ivermectin is a golden drug. I don’t know if I have done it in your columns ( comments), but elsewhere, I have repeatedly urged researchers ( including FLCCC) to come together on an international programme “Ivermectin for the World”, to thoroughly unravel it’s multi potential and bring it to mainstream medicine. The most important being its value in cancer treatment which is now out of bounds for half the world population. Unfortunately, I haven’t got even a courtesy of a response. I don’t know how to push this effort on a world stage.
It's a slow process. But as shown, many countries are aware of Ivermectin's benefits for COVID.... https://www.onedaymd.com/2021/08/what-countries-are-using-ivermectin.html
Your title,... “Ivermectin for the World” is already taken. As that is the title of Dr. Justus R Hope's book on the subject... https://www.amazon.com/Ivermectin-World-Justus-R-Hope/dp/1737415909?keywords=justus+r+hope&qid=1697518083&s=books&sr=1-3
He is also a source in my article, as he has covered extensively what went down in India, being a frequent writer in the Desert Review. I recommend his substack on my home page.... https://justusrhope.substack.com/?utm_source=homepage_recommendations&utm_campaign=1980013
Didn't you once say you have a PhD? So while it might not be entirely accurate to call everyone with a PhD a professor, you are a doctor of something.
And I have written of the great achievements of Dr. Shankara Chetty in a few of my posts. And how he was prosecuted for his success in treating 1,000's of COVID patients, without a single one needing to be hospitalized.... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/big-pharmas-relentless-assault-now
The book on Ivermectin is fine. Every doctor must read it and keep it for consulting. It is a compilation and commentary on the work so far by myriad researchers and doctors, but largely unconnected work. My interest is about unravelling the still hidden potential of the molecule, as an international connected effort, so that there is no duplicating work and more aspects are covered. The drug may have multiple metabolistic mechanisms depending on the illness being prescribed for. The more thoroughly they are researched, the more options for Ivermectin will emerge. The effort must include study of other repurposed drugs that can compliment the efficacy of Ivermectin. To some extent, we are seeing it for cancer. More expansive work is needed for other life crippling diseases like Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, many Auto immune conditions etc. That is why I am rooting for world scale coordinated work.
I am in touch with Dr. Shankara Chetty as he had shown interest in my organic chemistry for repurposed drugs, especially as anti virals. If I have to name one single doctor in the whole world for his great work on Covid treatments, it must be him.
You're a dreamer, aren't you? There has never been a world-wide coordinated effort made for any item, substance, or product, other than these mRNA vaccines. To think this might be a possibility, for such a vilified and misaligned substance is a pipe dream.
And it's actually a good thing to duplicate work, when doing research. Reproducibility is highly valued. Consistent results makes the evidence that much stronger. Such as every study on Ivermectin's prophylactic effectiveness being corroborated many times over.... https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc447fd-c9c2-438e-8d1b-a65936c26e4c_1400x881.jpeg
It is a dream alright, but not unrealistic. Some one like FLCCC and Dr. Hope can make a beginning. They have international following. It can be like this. Start with contacting all those researchers who have been interested in this work with IVM so far, perhaps some 20-30 of them. Get them on one platform. Science funding suddenly looks fraught now, but I hope some crowd sourced funding is possible, from doctors who used Ivermectin to the patients who benefited from their use. If the determination is there, it should be possible to get going.
Honestly, it's not surprising you haven't received any response to this fanciful idea.
Agree. I kept saying then why is not all of India dead if so viral …. Crickets …. Then I stared throwing out other country names ….. so what exactly are they doing …..
Proof of so many things. When researching different places outside of USA, why numbers were low etc I discovered a couple of regions and what they were doing …. While Israel was literally under armed military lockdown, households limited to 1 person out and limited trips to pharmacies, grocery stories etc …. Could not make this up …. Made comment the irony or of all places this was happening ….. and the evil and hate directed towards me was palpable ….. duly noted ….
I think there was a section of Ecuador? (Can’t remember which country but not their whole country) That used it while death all around them ….
Macron banned OTC sales on HCQ in mid January 2020. Remember reading about and thought that’ll be a pain for those taking for their rheumatoid arthritis. Yes … mid January 2020….. remember thinking it was odd ….. did I save the article? Nope.
May 2020 but you already couldn’t get in France then a factory burned down at some point
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-bans-use-of-hydroxychloroquine-drug-touted-by-trump-to-treat-coronavirus/
Here’s a March import ban? Hmmm …. And other anti virals …. So they knew what worked …
https://globaltradealert.org/intervention/79297
Great article. We know the depopulation plan has worked well no matter how it’s explained. Just logical. We had remedies, mostly not used to sell jabs to murder. Simple facts.
Thanks. It's a little bit more devious than that. Cause if it were as simple as that, they would have released a more dangerous pathogen. You don't want to kill your customers. Better to make them chronically ill, to keep demand high and the profits rolling.
Sure that’s one part of the plan. Sick to keep medical the professionals going, then dead. 😵 extremely devious.